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Shark Finning 2 years, 2 months ago #540

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I'm sure every member of Oceanblue is aware of this odious practice and condemns it. A recent federal law prohibits shark finning only by U.S. registered vessels. You can readily buy shark fins right here in New York City. I wish there were a similar proposal here in New York State. Perhaps that is an initiative Oceanblue Divers could launch?

Ban The Sale of Shark Fins In California


Yes, Chinese Culture Will Survive Without Shark Fin Soup
posted by: Kristina Chew

A few weeks ago, California lawmakers Paul Fong (D-Cupertino) and Jared Huffman (D-San Rafael) introduced Assembly Bill (AB) 376, which proposes to ban the sale and distribution of shark fins in California. The bill has set off a passionate debate, as shark fin's soup is seen as a thousand-year-plus tradition in Chinese culture. State Senator Leland Yee, who is running for mayor of San Francisco, has even declared the proposed ban an '"attack on Asian culture,"'according to SfGate.com.

I have to say, the way one gets shark fins for shark fin soup is a pretty terrible attack on the sharks. Shark finning is a brutal and violent practice in which fins are hacked off a live shark, which is then left to die as it sinks to the bottom of the ocean. Marine biologists say there has been a 99 percent decline in oceanic whitetip sharks in the Gulf of Mexico over the last 15 years and a 89 percent decline in hammerhead sharks in the northwest Atlantic. Overall, scientists say that as many as 90 percent of sharks in the world’s open oceans have disappeared.

Currently, dried shark fin in San Francisco's Chinatown sales for between $178 and $500 a pound in San Francisco. Shark fin's soup costs between $250 and $500 for ten people. SfGate.com notes that the soulp

......has been a traditional dish at banquets going back as far as the Han Dynasty, 1,800 years ago, when emperors and royals began consuming it. It is considered one of the four "treasures" of Chinese cuisine, along with abalone; fish maw, or bladder; and sea cucumber.

With the growth of the Chinese middle and upper classes, demand for the soup has increased, as one way to show that a family has 'arrived' and attained often hard-won economic success.

Opponents of the bill argue that an 'existing federal ban against shark finning by U.S. registered vessels is adequate protection': Sharks cannot be imported into the US unless the entire shark is captured and used:

Michael Kwong, a local seafood processor whose family has been in the business since 1905, said sharks are not even targeted by fishermen.

"It's usually a bycatch, but when they do catch a shark, they are going to use it. The entire carcass gets used," said Kwong, one of several restaurateurs and business owners who accompanied [State Senator] Yee at a news conference opposing AB376. "If this bill passes, there will be a lot of collateral damage."

However, as SfGate.com notes, the federal law 'does not apply to foreign-registered vessels, and it does not ban the sale of shark fins' and is, in the words of Assembly Huffman, '"toothless."'

As a third-generation Chinese-American who still remembers my aunts whispering to me that I needed to drink each drop of my bowl of shark fin's soup---only something we saw at fancy banquets---with care, I'm with Assemblyman Huffman, and I'm also with Assemblyman Paul Fong, the Silicon Valley Democrat who co-sponsored the bill. As the New York Times quotes him in an article about this 'tempest in a soup pot':

“It’s a horrific scene,” he said of finning. “Being environmentally conscious, I took the scientists’ side.”

Though I kind of want to ask Assemblyman Fong, was he expecting the bill to cause such a, um, souphaha when he decided to co=sponsor it?

The New York Times also quotes 27-year-old Jennifer Cheung, who said no to the soup at a Chinese New year celebration:

“I come from a culture where food is very important....But I think this is a very hefty price to pay just for a bowl of soup.”

Leaving aside such not-really-Chinese-Chinese-food items like fortune cookies and chop suey, certainly there are plenty of other traditional foods that one can make, and certainly many other ways of celebrating and carrying on Chinese traditions and cultures than shark fin soup. Somehow, I think Chinese culture will survive without shark fin soup.I for one can live without it

(I'm a vegetarian, as it is.)
Last Edit: 2 years, 2 months ago by avracohen.

Re: Shark Finning 2 years, 2 months ago #542

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I can understand the coulture thing with the Chinese, but the Chinese are not stupid people,if it was banned by all states, im sure they can see the benefits of stopping this senseless slaughter, the world changes, traditions change and we change along with it. This has being the way of the world since time began, it just takes someone with power to say thats is NO MORE.

Re: Shark Finning 2 years, 2 months ago #543

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Hi Avra,

You incorrectly stated that "A recent federal law prohibits shark finning only by U.S. registered vessels."

This may be my fault. When I posted my Huffington Post article ("Shark and Awe in the U.S. Senate") here on Oceanblue, my piece originally made the following flawed description about the U.S. Shark Finning Prohibition Act of 2000:

"...a legislative milestone that made it illegal to have fins aboard a U.S. registered vessel without the corresponding shark carcasses."

I caught this error a few hours after my article appeared, and changed it to read:

"...a legislative milestone that made it illegal to have fins aboard any vessel in U.S. waters without the corresponding shark carcasses."

The new law is the Shark Conservation Act. It upholds the same requirement as the Shark Finning Prohibition Act of 2000, but it now ensures that sharks be landed whole with their fins attached regardless of how a ship is designated. This removed a horrendous loophole created in 2008 by an Appeals Court ruling that made an interpretation that "cargo" vessels were free to work in tandem with "fishing" vessels. Their decision essentially legalized the transshipment of fins at sea in U.S. waters.

The Shark Conservation Act also allows the U.S. to expect other nations to adopt similar conservation measures regarding sharks, with the implication that the U.S. could use the sanctioning power of the Pelly Amendment to get compliance.

I fully support getting a ban on all shark and ray products in New York. If Mayor Bloomberg can defy the "traditional" cooking of french fries and ban the "culture" of smoking in parks & beaches, surely he can lead in mitigating the ecological crime of shark finning.

Edward

Re: Shark Finning 2 years, 2 months ago #544

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It absolutly should be illegal to sell something that is now illegal to obtain in our country. EU should be voting on similar sanctions in there waters soon as well. Now if only the US would take control of more of these central american countries then itld be illegal there, not to mention we wouldnt need passports to dive some nice areas anymore lol. Just my .02

Re: Shark Finning 2 years, 2 months ago #547

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Good site for more info:

STOP SHARK FINNING

The NEWS link is very good for latest updates on legislation.

"Keep sharks in the ocean, and out of the soup!"

Let's mobilize for a ban in NYC on the sale of shark fins.

Stay wet... avra

Re: Shark Finning 1 year, 6 months ago #836

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I just saw this online. It's about time that the Chinese people are awakening to the modern world. Shark Finning is a despicable act of mutilating an animal. How this hokey BS starts about the miracle cures, aphrodisiac qualities, displays of caste by the ingestion of predatorial animal parts just boggles my mind. It is absolute stupidity. It's caused a significant depletion of predator animals. For whatever reason the Asian nationals in general find this fascination with animals that can kill you. "You should eat it and it will make you better in some way. "Too bad we can't get them hooked on Lion Fish." Solve two problems at once.

Shark fin soup is one of the lowest, not about taste, cure or sexual prowess. It's about wealth. The exclusion of shark fin soup at a formal affair in China is akin to serving potato chips and beer at a wedding in America. Yet, take a look at the attached link. It finally appears the message is getting out there.

ecocentric.blogs.time.com/2011/11/23/is-...e_editors_picks=true
Last Edit: 1 year, 6 months ago by Les.

Re: Shark Finning 1 year, 5 months ago #837

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Thanks! Good news is pretty rare on the marine conservation front, but there's a good bit of it scattered through that link. Who knows... there might even be coral reefs still around for our grandkids to visit! Of course they'll be too busy texting their friends about how cool the new gill implants are.
Still, I'd like to see a call for NYC to ban the sale of shark fins. Thanks Les.
Stay wet... avra

Re: Shark Finning 1 year, 5 months ago #838

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Awesome stuff, Les. Thanks for sharing.

Re: Shark Finning 1 year, 2 months ago #904

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FINALLY!
WHAT CAN WE DO TO SUPPORT THIS MEASURE AND GUARANTEE ITS PASSAGE?

Shark Fin Sales Could Soon Be Banned in New York
by Kristina Chew
February 22, 2012


Read more: www.care2.com/causes/shark-fin-sales-cou...k.html#ixzz1nRBDZ9QB

New York legislators introduced a bill on Tuesday that would ban the sale, trading, distribution and possession of shark fins in the state by as early as 2013. Similar laws have been passed in California, Hawaii, Oregon and Washington; Florida, Illinois, Maryland and Virginia have pending legislation.

Among the sponsors of the bill in the New York Assembly is Grace Meng, who represents Flushing in Queens where the population is heavily Asian. Meng’s immigrant parents both owned and worked in restaurants. While stating her liking for shark fin soup and saying that it would be a “huge adjustment for the community,” Meng also noted that “it’s important to be responsible citizens.”

Others interviewed in a New York Times article about the new bill expressed similar sentiments:

While many restaurants in Chinatown said that a ban would hurt their business, managers predicted that most clients would be only too happy to have it off the menu.

“It’s only the elderly who want it: when their grandkids get married, they want the most expensive stuff, like an emperor,” said Vincent Yu, a waiter at Grand Harmony Palace, where the soup sells for $30 to more than $100 a bowl, depending on whether the meat it contains is pure shark fin or mixed with shrimp or chicken. Alluding to the famously tasteless nature of the fins, he added, “Guests offer me a bowl all the time, but I like won-ton soup.”

Indeed, restaurants are already seeking substitutes for shark fin such as other kinds of fish, abalone or tofu, while businesses are preparing to stop selling shark fin altogether. Before California’s ban became law, a number of people emphasized how integral shark’s fin soup is to Chinese culture. But Patrick Kwan, the New York director of the Humane Society of the United States, downplayed such claims, saying that the soup is “nothing more than a status symbol — a ‘keeping up with the Joneses.’ ”

New York is the biggest market for shark’s fin on the east coast so a state-wide ban could lead to similar laws in other states.

73 million sharks — which are an endangered species — are killed annually to satisfy demand for the soup with many of the sharks killed by the horrific practice of finning in which the fin is hacked off a live shark, which is then left to die as it sinks to the bottom of the ocean.


Read more: www.care2.com/causes/shark-fin-sales-cou...k.html#ixzz1nDFP18Ga
Last Edit: 1 year, 2 months ago by avracohen. Reason: provide credit
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Re: Shark Finning 1 year, 2 months ago #906

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It's all been said..... Great news.

Re: Shark Finning 1 year, 2 months ago #908

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Great post and great news, Avra. It's been a long time coming.

As to what we can do: obviously we can support the bill as much as possible and publicize information about it in as many places as possible, on Facebook, etc. I'm sure Care2 will have petitions circulating before long and we can publicize those as well. We can also talk about it at happy hour on Tuesday to let people know it's coming down the pike.

Stay tuned.

Re: Shark Finning 1 year, 2 months ago #910

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Thank you for posting this.

Re: Shark Finning 1 year, 2 months ago #911

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Welcome to the board Wei Mei. Oceanblue is a very active club. It's a great group.

Les

Re: Shark Finning 1 year, 2 months ago #918

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Hello Everyone,

As an animal lover including sharks, shark protection is one of my main topic/concern these days. It’s only reasonable to make any efforts to help ban ‘shark fin trade’ altogether, because for the sake
of the environment, humanitarian, and health concern. Of course, by acting on it now, my mind stopped nagging my conscience before my bedtime and mornings that went on for 2 years.

I share the sense of sick resentment with many others towards the nouveau riches Chinese community consuming so many shark fins for soup. It’s a similar sick in the pit of my stomach about animal abuse or shooting down wolves/elephants for example…so cruel and flagrantly disrespectful to nature.

As a Chinese, I’d like to share with the community that while I’m sickened by the fact that these magnificent animals are killed like this, there’s some antagonistic language that’s not so useful.
Of course, you can’t talk about the issue and not point about that. But evidently, the hostile language I’ve been hearing from far and near has caused some Chinese claiming it’s a cultural attack from the West. We have to find a right tone to promote understanding, education and arming ourselves with scientific facts. I think most people are less inclined to cooperate or listen if they feel attacked, and we need everyone on our side. Believe me, the Chinese folks will not eat any more shark fin if they knew how much health risks there is.

In December I shared with my Japanese friend about the ‘Cove’ a documentary film and how one Japanese fisherman village slaughtered so many dolphins. ‘It’s a film that you must see’, I said. To my happy surprise, she said after she watched the film she helped transcribed ‘Cove’ into Japanese for a lawyer friend who’s showing the film for viewers in Japan.. She didn’t know the facts before and now she does and will not eat whale beef. I hope the Japanese public will do the same.

Even though Hong Kong is still one of the biggest shark fin trade and distribution center, HK residents are now changing that attitude about shark fin soup eating due to education and environmental awareness. More people are getting involved.

Let’s get more involved by contacting more senators for support, promoting education and fund more scientific research.
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Re: Shark Finning 1 year, 2 months ago #919

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Thanks, Wei Mei, great stuff.

This is a very sensitive issue, for sure, and all dialogue has to be conducted with as much understanding and respect as possible, and with absolutely no hostility or negativity regarding race, national heritage, personal opinion or antagoism. Nothing positive will ever come out of that. It's vital we get buy-in from the Chinese community, so let's keep it as positive as possible, because, as you said, the subject is negative as it is. Cultural shifts take time and patience, and while time is hardly unlimited for sharks, we have to approach this with the utmost care if we hope to succeed. Pointing out the benefits of not killing sharks, such as the health benefits you noted, are one of the most powerful ways of getting buy-in. No one wants mercury poisoning.

Thanks again for posting.
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